Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[tdhenson86]

Well what are you looking at? I didn't do it!!!

Gorgeous birds!

 

[peepblessed]

Hi! I have a silkie chick named smudge who was sold to me as a self blue, smudge is 3 weeks old today and up against my three other self blue chicks (bought from the same place on the same day) smudge is looking pretty white!

Can I have some feed back on opinions of smudges colouring?

Looks white to me.

Well I ended up with all 4 eggs hatching thanks to my Orp hen! She's a fantastic first time broody mama.

From the four chicks that hatched I'm trying to figure out what colors these two are. I know someone mentioned the one I posted above was a splash which is what I am leaning towards because of the yellow coloring it has in it along with the "bluish" tint. Well the last one to hatch looked just like that one but with no yellow in it. So I'm guessing it's a blue? Here are some pics. If anyone could help me out on their colors it would be greatly appreciated. These are the two I plan to keep and use in my breeding program.

I would say these are both splash.

Well what are you looking at? I didn't do it!!!

He is looking great!

 

[Lynzi777]

Updated pics of my lavender pullet from Geri Godina. She'll be 20wks next Wednesday. Hoping it doesn't take too long for her to start laying.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Well it's my roo that is a split, neither hen carries the gene, they are black and a splash. After looking at more pictures online I wondered if it could be a blue seeing as how my roo is a blue split and the splash is a blue splash. Is that a possibility or you can only get blue from two blues?

Are you sure neither of your hens are split to lav? There is no way to know it visually. A split has a HIDDEN copy of the gene. There is nothing such as a blue split. If blue is present, it WILL show unless pigment is turned off by white. (Jut re-read your post; it is a blue split to lav?) There is nothing such as a blue splash; it is just splash: two copies of the blue gene.

Anyways, Bl/bl+ Lav+/lav crossed to bl+/bl+ Lav+/Lav+ will give 50% blue offspring, 50% black offspring. Half of the total will be split to lav, but no way to tell which ones.

From the Bl/bl+ Lav+/lav crossed to Bl/Bl Lav+/Lav+, half will be blue and half wll be splash, and once again an unidentifiable half will be split to lav.

 

[Lynzi777]

Are you sure neither of your hens are split to lav? There is no way to know it visually. A split has a HIDDEN copy of the gene. There is nothing such as a blue split. If blue is present, it WILL show unless pigment is turned off by white. (Jut re-read your post; it is a blue split to lav?) There is nothing such as a blue splash; it is just splash: two copies of the blue gene.

Anyways, Bl/bl+ Lav+/lav crossed to bl+/bl+ Lav+/Lav+ will give 50% blue offspring, 50% black offspring. Half of the total will be split to lav, but no way to tell which ones.

From the Bl/bl+ Lav+/lav crossed to Bl/Bl Lav+/Lav+, half will be blue and half wll be splash, and once again an unidentifiable half will be split to lav.

Sorry I'm new to the "splash" color. I don't know why but I always thought they were considered a "blue" splash, not just a splash. So yes my splash is just a splash. And no my Roo isn't a blue split, but a blue with the lavender gene, so Lavender split Blue. Am I saying that correctly? LOL I understand completely about the offspring being split and it's a hidden gene. I'm pretty sure the two chicks I have been questioning from the matching of the Splash to the lav split roo are in fact splash. However, I will not know if they are split to lavender. However, if one is a hen and I breed it back to my lavender split roo and I get lavender, that will be the indicator that that hen carries the gene? Just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Proper way of saying it is the exhibited colour SPLIT TO the hidden recessive gene, so it would be "blue split ot lav"

It can be difficult to distinguish between a bird that is blue or splash AND lavender (lav/lav, not split). Better choice for determination would be to breed to a pure lavender who does not carry the blue gene. But yes, if a recessive trait shows up when you breed a bird that you know carries the trait to one that you do not know about, then you have learned that the bird DOES carry that gene.

 

[Lynzi777]

Proper way of saying it is the exhibited colour SPLIT TO the hidden recessive gene, so it would be "blue split ot lav"

It can be difficult to distinguish between a bird that is blue or splash AND lavender (lav/lav, not split). Better choice for determination would be to breed to a pure lavender who does not carry the blue gene. But yes, if a recessive trait shows up when you breed a bird that you know carries the trait to one that you do not know about, then you have learned that the bird DOES carry that gene.

Well this will be very interesting to find out then in the next year or so. I have two lavender - a hen and roo ( I do not know if they carry blue gene but can find out) I have two splash chicks, a blue chick and blue roo that is split to lavender. I will be keeping lots of notes! LOL

 

[Fur N Feathers]

Thank you TdHenson86 and Peepblessed! How is your boy maturing out PeepBlessed? My pretty boy will be a year old on September 17th.

Beautiful lavenders and porcelains Mumsy and TdHenson86!!!

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: if you breed the lavender birds to blacks (definitely not dark blue), you will know if you get any blue chicklets that they carry blue...

 

[Lynzi777]

if you breed the lavender birds to blacks (definitely not dark blue), you will know if you get any blue chicklets that they carry blue...

I no longer have a black. Just 2 blues, 2 splash, and 2 lavender.