What in Ducky Heck is this!?

[casportpony]

This is what I use:
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/zoetis-nolvasan-s-sol

This can also be used:
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/purdue-products-betadine-surgical-solution-16-oz


With either, you want the solution *not* the scrub.

Edited to add:
One might be able to use this instead of the Novalsan:
https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/w...6171&sst=cfffef5f-9ed3-42f1-9d47-fc5e9c0dddec

 

[casportpony]

Okay, here are mine. Keep in mind that mine was most likely from a puncture and it was in the breast muscle, but treatment would be the same I think, which is remove all nasty stuff, flush, wrap and start antibiotics.

Spoiler: Lots of Nasty Pus Pictures

Plucked feather and cleaned skin.


Lanced


Pus removed then wound was flushed with saline and Nolvasan


Gauze rolls


Vet wrap


Nolvasan


Cotton padding


Gauze soaked in Nolvasan


Novalsa soaked gauze pad on wound, padding over gauze, gauze roll over padding, vet wrap over gauze roll.


Was treated with Clavamox and recovered.

 

[DuckyDoodles]

I would tag you each individually but it’s just easier to respond in general (heck, maybe I’m supposed to do that anyways?)

1. I will try and see if I can figure out how to edit post title to warn of gross pics.

2. It did leave a big hole but I don’t :feel: like I got it all? It’s still got hardened black stuff in the hole.

3. If it is about 1/2 inch deep in the hole (estimation) wouldn’t that mean that it’s under the skin?

4. It could absolutely be a previously clogged/infected feather follicle. Could have also been a tiny predator poke or, and I hate to admit this, potentially a B.B. bullet lodged in there. I know nothing of her history here on the property prior to October but I know the property had been subjected to some renters for at least 3 years. There’d been shot up mailboxes, spray paint cans, PAM cans, glass bottles, oil canisters, etc., all around the area she would sneak off to for protection. Me, kiddo and hubs went out and cleaned up the debris, garbage, glass, etc. but I’m certain there’s more lurking around. We’ve got probably 6 dilapidated/rusted/filled with all sorts of biohazardous materials burn bins on the property and we have confirmed that instead of paying the 14$ for trash pickup, they just burnt LITERALLY everything. Once we found a few bullet holes facing the direction of the house, north side of the property, my mother and I immediately uttered concern that these redneck POS’ may have taunted the poor duck. She was the only duck here and from what I’ve gathered, there’d not been any others. But, they add, “that they know of.”

5. I want to get all of it out, so I know I’ve done my best and given her the best I could. I know I only stumbled upon this thing by accident once I was pat-drying/double checking that she was good and ready to be put back outside after her PT bath. It wasn’t red around the edges or around the skin. No swelling nor hot to the touch. I’m not going to do anything else today, and I may even leave it alone tomorrow because I don’t want to hurt her, but would it be best to do this in little sessions each/every other day until it’s gone or should I slowly, with breaks through the process, do it in one day?

6. My biggest concern is hurting her or making it worse. Sometimes discomfort will just have to be a suck part of it but getting it done regardless is necessary. It’s like punishing a child; it literally physically hurts my heart to see my kiddo cry but sometimes the bigger picture outweighs that.
<BUT> it’s just seemingly hard and also seemingly right on her breast bone. Like how would I know when to stop in such an area like that? I’m wigged that I could paralyze her or kill her if I hit a bone or something. What if it goes to any surrounding areas in there and it’s like 3miles in circumference (exaggeration but point still the same); how would I know if I’m doing more harm than good?

I will say, there was only the teensiest drop of blood in the entire process and it seemed where one little piece of the evil plug had adhered to the skin sortve like a scab. The rest of the plug wasn’t attached, just plugging/filling. The wetness on the gauze where I put the evil plug seemed to have softened and smeared what was long ago, but now dried, blood.

I will do whatever I can in my power to help her; if this takes a month or an all day process for 24 hours, whatever. I am just so worried that I’ll inadvertently hurt her or cause harm to her that could lead to her death. Finding this stupid evil plug within days of one of our other Pekins dying... it’s just got my kid rattled and, truthfully, me too. Lucy (the other Pekin) died because of completely unrelated issues and I know the two aren’t connected but lord o’ moly... we need a patron saint of duck protecting around here!

 

[DuckyDoodles]

@casportpony I did want to cheer when you pointed out the chlorhexidine gluconate (name brand is Hibiclens) because I literally have that in a gallon pump dispenser. It’s MRSA approved and we have it on hand because I have immunocompromised people here who are very susceptible to staph/MRSA infections. And I had even thought about it during my made-for-TV-doctor-operation by it does have a slight red dye in the solution and didnt know if that was okay to use or not/ I know the Blue Kote I have is a terrible horrible mess and this isn’t to that extent but I also know they don’t want animals licking Blue Kote so ....

 

[casportpony]

I just had a thought... do you know if she was ever given an antibiotic shot? I ask because I saw this once in a hen that had been given tylan.

 

[shawluvsbirds]

Tagging is sort of a pain. Respond however is easiest for you. . but there is a quote function at The bottom of each post you can select that and then when your done and ready to respond click insert quotes. .then you can respond to individual posts

 

[casportpony]

@casportpony I did want to cheer when you pointed out the chlorhexidine gluconate (name brand is Hibiclens) because I literally have that in a gallon pump dispenser. It’s MRSA approved and we have it on hand because I have immunocompromised people here who are very susceptible to staph/MRSA infections. And I had even thought about it during my made-for-TV-doctor-operation by it does have a slight red dye in the solution and didnt know if that was okay to use or not/ I know the Blue Kote I have is a terrible horrible mess and this isn’t to that extent but I also know they don’t want animals licking Blue Kote so ....

 

[DuckyDoodles]

And guys, I absolutely appreciate the feedback, even when it’s pointing out that I totally botched the whole position of the duck thing. Admittedly, I thought it was okay because I saw some guy on YouTube who has a pet Pekin and they lay it on its back to do various things (blow dry, vacuum lol). That’s absolutely my fault and I do agree I probably suspected I shouldn’t have based on the sheer, and immediately noticeable, change in her breathing.

And for each and every one of you; thank you. From the bottom of my heart , and the heart of my little 9 year old daughter, we’re absolutely appreciative. We’re great students and while she’s a handful, she’s exceptionally loving and loyal to animals.

We are your sponges.

Plus because I spent countless hours trying to find a picture that WASNT pimple related to which I could compare this... and cam up empty handed.... I can’t help but feel like we’re all going to be part of some knowledge-ice-breaking-learning-experience

 

[shawluvsbirds]

And guys, I absolutely appreciate the feedback, even when it’s pointing out that I totally botched the whole position of the duck thing. Admittedly, I thought it was okay because I saw some guy on YouTube who has a pet Pekin and they lay it on its back to do various things (blow dry, vacuum lol). That’s absolutely my fault and I do agree I probably suspected I shouldn’t have based on the sheer, and immediately noticeable, change in her breathing.

And for each and every one of you; thank you. From the bottom of my heart , and the heart of my little 9 year old daughter, we’re absolutely appreciative. We’re great students and while she’s a handful, she’s exceptionally loving and loyal to animals.

We are your sponges.

Plus because I spent countless hours trying to find a picture that WASNT pimple related to which I could compare this... and cam up empty handed.... I can’t help but feel like we’re all going to be part of some knowledge-ice-breaking-learning-experience

Hey You are doing your best for this duck that's all anyone can ask

 

[DuckyDoodles]

I just had a thought... do you know if she was ever given an antibiotic shot? I ask because I saw this once in a hen that had been given tylan.

I have zero idea of any prior history or care (likely lack of, in my jaded opinion of these people). I know I have not given her any shots and only found out how/where to do such after I’d read (you guessed it) BYC yesterday

I know the 2017 antibiotic purge has made it super difficult to find anything to give in the feed. Also know (from reading you guys) it’d be less effective and difficult to gauge how much she actually got since it gets splashed around, cleaned with, etc.

Since the “procedure” (LOL) I’ve already started wondering if I need to somehow procure a vial of penicillin or something from rural king/tractor supply?

Even if it’s just to help ward off any infection caused because I’m in there stirring stuff up?