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We were going to use some malay in our orloff breeding program, had a great pair, but they just never produced for us. Was sad too were great birds. Orloffs were cool as well.

Google search Orchard Poultry Farm, he used to have large fowl malay.

"Chu-shamo is just a lighter weight-class of the O-Shamo. In type they should completely resemble the big O-Shamo." Straight out of "Oreintal Gamefowl" by Horst W. Schmudde.

Depends on the line, they are mostly the big shamo type birds though. There are smaller, asil type lines from brazil too. The most common is the bigger ones it seems.

Orchard Poultry Farm ("shamasil") would be a good contact (check out his website). I had shamo from him, were nice birds. He might know of more local breeders to you as well... I am realll close to Missouri, but the shamo were one of the breeds that was sent to out of state friends when I had...

Can really only go by what the breeder tells you they are, though some of his traits are not "shamo" like as for what one would desire, he does do the upright stance really well. I always gauged our shamo off of the ones Julia Keeling has as to what to breed towards. A quick search of her...

Actually he is better that he isn't a peacomb.... Very nice bird.

Ganoi typey bird, not shamo or "Madagascar" game...

By the way.. now is a great time of year to be acquiring fowl as many, like myself, are cutting down their flocks in preparation for winter.. can get some great deals to start your own Oriental adventure...

If you want to seriously raise actual oriental fowl, contact a breeder. If you want some mixed up oriental "looking" birds get the ideal ones. Have seen the "asil" and "shamo" looking birds from them and most were no where close to being desirable as orientals. Nothing against them, it is...

pumpkin

Hatcheries make money by selling numbers of chicks compared to quality of chicks. Now don't get me wrong, many hatcheries sell very good, very hardy birds, just if you are looking for something along the lines of pure bred orientals, you will need to find an individual breeder and get quality...

Pumpkin Asil

Will be 2 this spring. Been a hard winter on the birds this year... they seem more excited about spring than I am.

Spring is coming...

Thai

3/4 Asil - 1/4 Brazillian

Very nice, have always liked the grey birds.

He will be 1 this spring, these usually get in the 7 pound range, but some do get a bit heavier. They are right on the border between the 2 sizes of asil. So they would be a BIG reza or a small kulang in description :).