The turner in the newest model is quiet and very easy to miss - even when you're in the same room! I had to use a Crayola to mark ONE egg and placed it in right next to the water port. When I went back a few hours later, that egg had moved off toward the back, so I know it actually turned.If the red light is on over the egg turning icon does it mean the auto turner is on? I have never noticed it turning, the egg I have in there is always in the same place and the embryo appears to be stuck to the eggshell???