Albon and fenbendazole panacur for coccidiosis

[Tanner123]

Smz-Tmp is an antibiotic, Albon is the name brand.

Fenbendazole is a dewormer. Giving for 3 days is interesting. Did the vet tell you to dose each bird individually or how are you giving it?

Amprolium (Corid) is a Coccidiostat. That would go in the flock's drinking water to treat Coccidiosis.
Liquid Corid dose is 2tsp or Powdered Corid Dose is 1 1/2tsp per gallon of water given for 5-7 days as the only source of drinking water.
Do not add any extra vitamins/electrolytes that contain B1(Thiamine) to food or water during the course of treatment.

The hen that is sick and has prescribed medication and care should be treated on her own with the medications the vet suggested since she should be drinking the medicated (Albon/Smz-Tmp) water as the only source of drinking water and the Fenbendazole is given by weight orally once daily.

Interesting, the vet gave us 4 different bottles with different labels. One was Fenbendazole for 3 days as a dewormer, one was albon for 5 days also as a dewormer, one was smz-tmp for 7 days as a antibiotic, and also gave us meloxicam for 5 days as a pain/anti-inflammatory. All were in syringes to dose to the beak. Then said to dose the flock with amprolium 9.6% at 8oz per 50gal or 4.73ml per gallon for I believe it was 5 days but could have been 7 I'd have to look again.

 

[Tanner123]

Smz-Tmp is an antibiotic, Albon is the name brand.

Fenbendazole is a dewormer. Giving for 3 days is interesting. Did the vet tell you to dose each bird individually or how are you giving it?

Amprolium (Corid) is a Coccidiostat. That would go in the flock's drinking water to treat Coccidiosis.
Liquid Corid dose is 2tsp or Powdered Corid Dose is 1 1/2tsp per gallon of water given for 5-7 days as the only source of drinking water.
Do not add any extra vitamins/electrolytes that contain B1(Thiamine) to food or water during the course of treatment.

The hen that is sick and has prescribed medication and care should be treated on her own with the medications the vet suggested since she should be drinking the medicated (Albon/Smz-Tmp) water as the only source of drinking water and the Fenbendazole is given by weight orally once daily.

Sorry I probably wasn't specific on how the medicines were given.

Albon and Fenbendazole as wormers were once daily, they came in syringes already prefilled and we were suppose to give them as drops to her beak. The smz-tmp as a antibiotic every 12 hours also in a syringe we drop into her beak. Meloxicam was once daily, also as a syringe dropper to the beak.

 

[Eggcessive]

Again, SMZ TMP is sulfa antibiotic sulfamethazine and trimeth sulfa. Albon is also a sulfa antibiotic, sulfadimethoxine. They do the same things, and also will treat coccidiosis and certain other infections. Sulfa drugs are nit supposed to be given for more than 5 days usually. They are not dewormers. Fenbendazole is a dewormer. I would question the vet about calling Albon a dewormer.

 

[Tanner123]

Again, SMZ TMP is sulfa antibiotic sulfamethazine and trimeth sulfa. Albon is also a sulfa antibiotic, sulfadimethoxine. They do the same things, and also will treat coccidiosis and certain other infections. Sulfa drugs are nit supposed to be given for more than 5 days usually. They are not dewormers. Fenbendazole is a dewormer. I would question the vet about calling Albon a dewormer.

Ok thank you for the clarification on all that. I'm thinking since we have been treating her with SMZ TMP and albon we don't need to treat her with the corid water that the rest of the flock is getting, correct?

Side bar question. Any idea when her regular appetite will come back? Or how to get it back? She won't eat any regular chicken feed. Only some scratch grains, live crickets yesterday but not today, today it's live meal worms.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Vet suggested treating the rest of the flock with corid.

Ok thank you for the clarification on all that. I'm thinking since we have been treating her with SMZ TMP and albon we don't need to treat her with the corid water that the rest of the flock is getting, correct?

Again, SMZ TMP is sulfa antibiotic sulfamethazine and trimeth sulfa. Albon is also a sulfa antibiotic, sulfadimethoxine. They do the same things, and also will treat coccidiosis and certain other infections.

It may be a good idea to reconsult your Vet for clarification on medication and treatment(s).

SMZ TMP and Albon are both Sulfa Antibiotics. Both are used to treat Coccidiosis and certain infections.

Corid (Amprolium) is a Coccidiostat and treats Coccidiosis.

As for when she will get her appetite back, it's hard to know. Encourage her to eat her normal feed. Try it wet and mushy.
Scrambled egg, bits of sardines or mackerel on top of the mushy feed may be enticing.

Hopefully she will improve with the medication, but sometimes a hen may suffer from conditions like reproductive disorders, cancer, etc., which unfortunately medications will not cure.

Side bar question. Any idea when her regular appetite will come back? Or how to get it back? She won't eat any regular chicken feed. Only some scratch grains, live crickets yesterday but not today, today it's live meal worms.

 

[Tanner123]

It may be a good idea to reconsult your Vet for clarification on medication and treatment(s).

SMZ TMP and Albon are both Sulfa Antibiotics. Both are used to treat Coccidiosis and certain infections.

Corid (Amprolium) is a Coccidiostat and treats Coccidiosis.

As for when she will get her appetite back, it's hard to know. Encourage her to eat her normal feed. Try it wet and mushy.
Scrambled egg, bits of sardines or mackerel on top of the mushy feed may be enticing.

Hopefully she will improve with the medication, but sometimes a hen may suffer from conditions like reproductive disorders, cancer, etc., which unfortunately medications will not cure.

@Wyorp Rock @Eggcessive you guys have been such great help. Bacteria tests came back for E. Coli and proteus mirabilis. We tried to treat her with the full dose of antibiotics from the vet. But as she felt better and got more active, giving drops of antibiotic to the beak became impossible and we weren't able to give full 7 days. Wondering if it would be a good idea to get Enrofloxacin Powder 20% to treat her and the whole flock? Or of that would be to much on her?

 

[Eggcessive]

I don’t recommend giving antibiotics to the whole flock, if they are not sick, and especially that one (enrofloxacin) that is banned in chickens and has a longer egg withdrawal time. Instead, if you have to give her more, you could medicate her at daylight before she comes off the roost, and then in evening when she is back on the roost. How many days of the sulfa did you give in total? Sulfa antibiotics are normally only given for 5 days. Is she acting better?

 

[Tanner123]

I don’t recommend giving antibiotics to the whole flock, if they are not sick, and especially that one (enrofloxacin) that is banned in chickens and has a longer egg withdrawal time. Instead, if you have to give her more, you could medicate her at daylight before she comes off the roost, and then in evening when she is back on the roost. How many days of the sulfa did you give in total? Sulfa antibiotics are normally only given for 5 days. Is she acting better?

Ok i didnt know how contagious those two bacteria is and if the rest of the flock would have it. We got all of the albon done (5 days). We started the SMZTMP a couple days after we started the albon and probably only got 3.5-4 days out of the 7 days the vet gave us. As she started feeling better she was fighting us more and more and we were scared we would asperate her if we forced it to much. We are pretty sure we killed a sick chick last year that way trying to get it fluids so we are scared to death to do it again. She is better than before we started the medications. But she is still lethargic. She sleeps all day pretty much, when we let them out in the yard she will peep around for awhile then just stand still and sometimes fall asleep. Still isn't eating much. Tried sardines, live crickets, live mealworms. Sometimes she eats, sometimes she doesn't. Definitely not eating enough though.

 

[Eggcessive]

Can you treat only her? Sulfa antibiotics can be hard on them. She may have secondary infection, or may need more treatment. Once antibiotics are completed, it is always good to give probiotics.

 

[Tanner123]

Can you treat only her? Sulfa antibiotics can be hard on them. She may have secondary infection, or mat need more treatment. Once antibiotics are completed, it is always good to given probiotics.

Yes we can separate her. We gave her probiotics while giving her the medications. If she does have a secondary infection is there a different antibiotic we can get that you would recommend?