Chicken loosing balance, tail down, stands alot

Ok well here we go, right now it sounds like she is neurologically decompensated, could be mini-strokes from high estrogen levels, many things come to mind:
This hen is in serious trouble now. Likely mini-strokes caused by high estrogen production. Has she been egg bound a lot? Had salpingitis recently? Egg laying issues? Any how we can try pulling her through :

1. Can’t stand but still alert = neurological or systemic issues
2. Tail down 90% of the time = severe weakness or discomfort
3. Using wings for balance, almost falling = ataxia or nerve/muscle issues
4. Dirty vent, poor drinking, slow eating = hydration and hygiene risks
5. Crop empties but energy is fading = digestion still working, but barely

With these signs, possibilities include:

1. Reproductive system disease: egg yolk peritonitis, salpingitis, or internal laying causing toxins and weakness.

2. Unlikely but neurological disease or Marek’s/other virus — slow onset, balance loss, and weakness

3. Severe nutritional deficiency: especially calcium, vitamins A, D, E, K, and B-complex, more common in older hens who eat less

4. Advanced parasite or bacterial infection — worms, respiratory, or systemic

5. Toxic/metabolic causes, liver or kidney struggling manifesting as neurological and physical decline

We can try to thin blood a little and prevent clot strokes:

Vitamin E: 100iu up to 200iu (safe DAILY upper limit for hens).

Turmeric
: Give about 1/8 teaspoon of turmeric powder daily — a small pinch mixed gently into her food or water, or added to a little olive/coconut oil and given in a capsule or via syringe to beak.

BUT choose one or the other, not both.

PRIORITY ONE:

1. Stabilize Hydration & Warmth

*Warm, draft-free spot: target 85-90°F if possible
*Syringe feed electrolyte solution (I can give you recipe): small amounts every hour or two (start with just a few drops, increase as tolerated):

RECIPE -electrolyte solution:
  • 1 cup warm water
  • Pinch salt + pinch baking soda
  • 1 tsp sugar or molasses
  • Optional: drop of poultry vitamin or B-complex (ensure it’s poultry safe!)
  • Avoid forceful syringe feeding unless you’re confident to prevent aspiration — small, careful doses are better than none.

    **small dose B1 can be given to reverse neurotoxicity in some cases. 50mg immediately (even human B1/thiamine crushed in water and syringed will buy time). Taper to 30mg (max 100mg in a day) over 2 days, taper to supportive 10mg a day as required up to 100mg if required.

2. Encourage Eating


1 Offer highly digestible, high-energy food:
  • Scrambled or boiled egg yolk diluted in water
  • Baby poultry feed or finely chopped soft greens
  • Berries or treats she likes (to keep appetite stimulated)
  • Avoid dry feed if she’s not eating much — soften or soak pellets.

3. Vent Care


  • Clean gently with warm water and low dose epsom salts daily
  • Keep dry and monitor for smell or worsening dirtiness
  • Use mild antiseptic if needed (chlorhexidine diluted)

4. Medication


*You’ve done fenbendazole — that’s good. Ensure full 5-day course completed.
*Deworming alone might not be enough if there’s reproductive disease or infection.
*If possible, get an avian vet involved immediately for diagnostics and antibiotics or anti-inflammatories. Or if you know where wing, hock or jugular veins are (right is usually bigger than left) and if you know how to pull blood you can send away yourself for testing and bypass vets.

What to Watch For


1. Crop full and not emptying (sour crop), can indicate metabolic or neuro problems: may require crop flush or antifungal
2. Sudden worsening: seizures, unable to swallow, gasping breathing = emergency
3. Poop color changes: green bile (liver), black tarry (bleeding), watery (infection)
4. Dehydration signs: sunken eyes, dry mouth, weak pulse

Final Words for now


This is a critical window. She still shows alertness, which is great hope, but time is short. Focus all your energy on hydration, warmth, gentle nutrition.

You’ve done great with vitamins and deworming — now step it up to intensive supportive care. Sometimes it’s just about keeping her comfortable while meds and nutrition rebuild her strength.

Keep her close, keep fighting for her, and please keep us updated. We’re here to help every step.
 
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Update

as of the last message Chicky has passed.

I'd appreciate if anyone could chime in if there was something I could have done more for her if I acted quicker

Again thank-you everyone so much for all the ideas and help really appreciate it. I was really hoping I could make her better.
 
I don't know if she did or not. She started laying again when weather got warmer (maybe 3 times Ive only had her less than a full year) then I left for 2 days and after I came back she never layed again but acted fine otherwise
Ok I'm gonna say here she has repro issues and likely big estrogen load is messing up her metabolism. Get the repro stuff right and she will balance out. for now, it is about supporting her nervous system and metabolism and giving care for symptoms until you can arrange to see a competent vet. They will need to test for repro issues. Blood test results will show high cholesterol, high AST (a liver enzyme) for a start. Estrogen > triggers Cholesterol > triggers yolk production. But if something goes weird, you will get metabolic problems. Also high estrogen causes clots and they cause strokes which means a hen will not be able to stand, turn properly or sometimes even lift her head. She will stop eating and everything, she will need you to support her care--fluids and food until help arrives. In my bigger reply pulled from my resources--vitamin E/turmeric (either) and B1 will keep her relatively stable. But you got to get hte bloods so we can figure it out. you wont lose her, but we got to act quick.
 
Ok well here we go, right now it sounds like she is neurologically compensated, could be mini-strokes from high estrogen levels, many things come to mind:
This hen is in serious trouble now. Likely mini-strokes caused by high estrogen production. Has she been egg bound a lot? Had salpingitis recently? Egg laying issues? Any how we can try pulling her through :

1. Can’t stand but still alert = neurological or systemic issues
2. Tail down 90% of the time = severe weakness or discomfort
3. Using wings for balance, almost falling = ataxia or nerve/muscle issues
4. Dirty vent, poor drinking, slow eating = hydration and hygiene risks
5. Crop empties but energy is fading = digestion still working, but barely

With these signs, possibilities include:

1. Reproductive system disease: egg yolk peritonitis, salpingitis, or internal laying causing toxins and weakness.

2. Unlikely but neurological disease or Marek’s/other virus — slow onset, balance loss, and weakness

3. Severe nutritional deficiency: especially calcium, vitamins A, D, E, K, and B-complex, more common in older hens who eat less

4. Advanced parasite or bacterial infection — worms, respiratory, or systemic

5. Toxic/metabolic causes, liver or kidney struggling manifesting as neurological and physical decline

We can try to thin blood a little and prevent clot strokes:

Vitamin E: 100iu up to 200iu (safe DAILY upper limit for hens).

Turmeric
: Give about 1/8 teaspoon of turmeric powder daily — a small pinch mixed gently into her food or water, or added to a little olive/coconut oil and given in a capsule or via syringe to beak.

BUT choose one or the other, not both.

PRIORITY ONE:

1. Stabilize Hydration & Warmth

*Warm, draft-free spot: target 85-90°F if possible
*Syringe feed electrolyte solution (I can give you recipe): small amounts every hour or two (start with just a few drops, increase as tolerated):

RECIPE -electrolyte solution:
  • 1 cup warm water
  • Pinch salt + pinch baking soda
  • 1 tsp sugar or molasses
  • Optional: drop of poultry vitamin or B-complex (ensure it’s poultry safe!)
  • Avoid forceful syringe feeding unless you’re confident to prevent aspiration — small, careful doses are better than none.

    **small dose B1 can be given to reverse neurotoxicity in some cases. 50mg immediately (even human B1/thiamine crushed in water and syringed will buy time). Taper to 30mg (max 100mg in a day) over 2 days, taper to supportive 10mg a day as required up to 100mg if required.

2. Encourage Eating


1 Offer highly digestible, high-energy food:
  • Scrambled or boiled egg yolk diluted in water
  • Baby poultry feed or finely chopped soft greens
  • Berries or treats she likes (to keep appetite stimulated)
  • Avoid dry feed if she’s not eating much — soften or soak pellets.

3. Vent Care


  • Clean gently with warm water and low dose epsom salts daily
  • Keep dry and monitor for smell or worsening dirtiness
  • Use mild antiseptic if needed (chlorhexidine diluted)

4. Medication


*You’ve done fenbendazole — that’s good. Ensure full 5-day course completed.
*Deworming alone might not be enough if there’s reproductive disease or infection.
*If possible, get an avian vet involved immediately for diagnostics and antibiotics or anti-inflammatories. Or if you know where wing, hock or jugular veins are (right is usually bigger than left) and if you know how to pull blood you can send away yourself for testing and bypass vets.

What to Watch For


1. Crop full and not emptying (sour crop), can indicate metabolic or neuro problems: may require crop flush or antifungal
2. Sudden worsening: seizures, unable to swallow, gasping breathing = emergency
3. Poop color changes: green bile (liver), black tarry (bleeding), watery (infection)
4. Dehydration signs: sunken eyes, dry mouth, weak pulse

Final Words for now


This is a critical window. She still shows alertness, which is great hope, but time is short. Focus all your energy on hydration, warmth, gentle nutrition.

You’ve done great with vitamins and deworming — now step it up to intensive supportive care. Sometimes it’s just about keeping her comfortable while meds and nutrition rebuild her strength.

Keep her close, keep fighting for her, and please keep us updated. We’re here to help every step.
Thankyou for trying to help
 
Update

as of the last message Chicky has passed.

I'd appreciate if anyone could chime in if there was something I could have done more for her if I acted quicker

Again thank-you everyone so much for all the ideas and help really appreciate it. I was really hoping I could make her better.
I am so very sorry. Ours had same sort of issues yesterday and passed.

Sounds like strokes which would be from high estrogen which happens with repro disease. Strokes cause unstable walking, wings used to maintain baalnce... slow walking... Common in ISA browns... I just started answerng when I saw your post come up... I don't know what your darling was... And I am so very sorry...
 
Thankyou for trying to help
That's ok, I am so very very sorry I did not join here earlier. I would have been right on it. We just now as of less than 24 hours back went through exactly the same issues. But you know, she knew you loved her and cared and they are so in tune, chickens, they know when they are loved. They love back, and nothing breaks that..... I'm deeply deeply sorry......... If you need anything, even to scream, I'm here.
 
Oh Shady, I'm so sorry for your loss. At least she is no longer suffering. Reproductive issues suck!! We have lost numerous chickens to reproductive issues and it seems to plague the hybrids / sex links. I'm sorry you're going through this. You did what you could and you must be satisfied with this now. Every loss is a learning experience. On their way out, with each loss, they teach us which better equips us to deal with the next situation. Hugs to you. :hugs
 
Ok I'm gonna say here she has repro issues and likely big estrogen load is messing up her metabolism. Get the repro stuff right and she will balance out. for now, it is about supporting her nervous system and metabolism and giving care for symptoms until you can arrange to see a competent vet. They will need to test for repro issues. Blood test results will show high cholesterol, high AST (a liver enzyme) for a start. Estrogen > triggers Cholesterol > triggers yolk production. But if something goes weird, you will get metabolic problems. Also high estrogen causes clots and they cause strokes which means a hen will not be able to stand, turn properly or sometimes even lift her head. She will stop eating and everything, she will need you to support her care--fluids and food until help arrives. In my bigger reply pulled from my resources--vitamin E/turmeric (either) and B1 will keep her relatively stable. But you got to get hte bloods so we can figure it out. you wont lose her, but we got to act quick.
We add to this high fats that go to the liver and cause fatty liver, so hepatic lipidemia. Or "lipids" as it may appear on tests. Yup, we need to become biological chemists to crack the chicken code and give them happier lives.
 
I am so very sorry. Ours had same sort of issues yesterday and passed.

Sounds like strokes which would be from high estrogen which happens with repro disease. Strokes cause unstable walking, wings used to maintain baalnce... slow walking... Common in ISA browns... I just started answerng when I saw your post come up... I don't know what your darling was... And I am so very sorry...
We add to this depressed RR (respiration rate). We nearly euthanized yesterday... but after some time, breathing improved, and she became responsive to wing gentle poking.

she had been given tramadol while decompensated which is negligence and criminal case worthy. We demanded naxolone for tramadol reversal... ALWAYS demand, then you have grounds for criminal action if they deny and do not provide service you have requested.

Even then... and I am crying as I write this... Delta Dawn was fighting so hard to come back to us and was still so gone that I had to hold her head up for I dont know, hours... But very dilute instant coffee, B1, choline, acts as a revival agent switching CNS and brain back on line. A drop or two in the beak if she will not swallow, do that ten times spaced 2 minutes apart... Mucosa of mouth should allow absorption.

If in doubt, make a paste of same things with honey-- apply to comb (very slow and limited absorption--around 30%, less if vascular collapse). Go under wings, rummage in feathers you will find bald skin, apply the paste there... If in neurological or vascular collapse, warm the patient, and NEVER apply syringed fluids if not swallowing-risk of vomiting into lungs. Then wait, and pray and put on her favorite country music, sing to her, between cursing the vets that left you to do emergency field care vet med.

We got our very loving hen back doing that... Only for her to be too messed up. she went into cardiac arrest in our arms. Then you KEEP ON TRYING give gentle CPR--two fingers, light and quick to chest, and give light, quick breaths your mouth over her beak. Thats how much we loved her.
 
I am so very sorry. Ours had same sort of issues yesterday and passed.

Sounds like strokes which would be from high estrogen which happens with repro disease. Strokes cause unstable walking, wings used to maintain baalnce... slow walking... Common in ISA browns... I just started answerng when I saw your post come up... I don't know what your darling was... And I am so very sorry...
Control the demand for estrogen and your HEN will live longer than you do. also, if ovaries are pulling hard because of estrogen, they will, and this is incredibly important, USE UP ALL VITAMIN A. Then no matter what you do? calcium she also can not use, no amount you put in will help. she may dump it in pooping, store it in ectopic soft tissue deposit, then she declines in many ways...... Needs to be rescue A shot to the brest muscle (25000iu/2.2lbs bodyweight). If no change, wait 24 hours. Redose as necessary up to another complete shot. Then maintain, increasing vitamin A for such a hen. she showed you she needs it. Honor that need.... and if also calcium deplete, rescue shot will help absorption, but as you carefully re dose calcium, co-transporters of small dose Magnesium (to signal calcium to mobilize) and vitamin K2- preferably menaquinone 7, to direct and transport calcium must be in place. That's the other thing. A chicken deplete in A cannot use calcium. They get signalled to seek more. They can get pica and then block their gizzard from eating rocks to try and get calcium. but mean time she is losing calcium from her bones, depserate to try and make her blood calcium normal. That is osteoporosis, and then when you pick her up around the hips, she may cry out, because calcium loss from bones causes pain in the bones, but ALSO in the muscles.
 

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