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  1. CoturnixComplex

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    I called those "dilute pharaoh" when I got them in a hatch randomly. No idea what they are genetically, but they came from a grau-fee type hen. They look almost like the "silver pharaoh" types (that you had some of too, Sara) but they're a shade closer to normal pharaohs. I sold mine but I will...
  2. CoturnixComplex

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    I am just trying to be the PSA reminding everyone to take everything everyone says, including me, with a grain of salt. Do your own research. Come to your own conclusions. Not all sources are equal; spend time evaluating them. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Assume everyone is full of...
  3. CoturnixComplex

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    Look, imma say this once and only once. I do not like shit like this, and my instinct is to just fade away and ignore it every time it's brought up. But the confusion generated on this board by zack's attempt at being helpful is genuinely distressing to me. The information is out there, and I...
  4. CoturnixComplex

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    The white genes confuse me in that no one has info on which strains carry which and I don't have any to test breed. I think dotted white is dominant too. :idunno
  5. CoturnixComplex

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    Breeding or laying flock? Breeding = 1:2-3 Laying = 1:6-12 or just no males at all Males start getting plucked out of growouts at 5-6 weeks for being buttholes (but the majority coexist pretty well until 8-10 wks).
  6. CoturnixComplex

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    Like but also dislike.
  7. CoturnixComplex

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    Ah well. I have to pay for being lazy earlier by being dedicated thrice-daily splint-checker now. Isn't that always the way of it. :gig They look good! Both upright-ish and peppy. Cross your fingers for me that both straighten out or another hatches soon. No loner chicks for me! I hope.
  8. CoturnixComplex

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    I hate those few moments after you splint them but before they figure out how to move, when they are just like "this is it. I have accepted death." :hit I splinted the little one too. I am being much more proactive with them than I normally would be; I do think their poor feet got squished...
  9. CoturnixComplex

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    They're SO LATE. This is the morning of day 22! I ran the incubator at the exact same temp as always; the only difference was the humidity and the turning (or lack thereof. I did do it whenever I was here and paying attention! Which was, er, a few days in the middle). Weird. Much fiddling is...
  10. CoturnixComplex

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    They're pretty curled. :/ Yeah, mine usually do too, but it's usually noticeably better by now even when left on the atrocious hatch-mat thing. I'm too lazy to set up the brooder for 1 yet but I'll get him on a paper towel in there, see if that gets him going.
  11. CoturnixComplex

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    I have actually never had such a late hatcher. Do they often have a harder time uncurling their feet? I am debating braces. Its only been about 8 hrs (I usually wait ~12-16) since he hatched but no sign of straightening at all yet and I don't want to chance it :/
  12. CoturnixComplex

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    Fluffy boi with 10g egg for reference. He is another of my charcoals, too. #2 is out, but has the barest hint of hernia so he's in baby-jail for the moment. Also fancy! But he wrecked his egg and I'm still trying to tell whether it was one of mine or one of the freebies I got.
  13. CoturnixComplex

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    He is legit 150% the average size of my newborn chicks :eek: From one of my 17g eggs!
  14. CoturnixComplex

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    My own spreadsheet! All my birds have a unique number code, unique band color combo, bloodline/source, color, parentage info, weight, birthday, average egg weight, etc listed. Well, most; I'm a little behind updating it. I'm trying to get pictures of egg patterns on there at the moment too...
  15. CoturnixComplex

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    I got this teeny little metal flip-top cage at Goodwill, and I am using it to try and pose males next to each other all puffed up like Siamese fighting fish to compare them and take pictures in the exact same lighting. They are, errrr, semi-cooperative.
  16. CoturnixComplex

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    Thank you for the link!!! I really wanted to see how a bunch of relatives stacked up next to each other visually. I wish there was a simpler way to actually indicate all of the relationships in the same place but those are some COMPLEX family trees now. :th I don't really have a good way to...
  17. CoturnixComplex

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    ~3 months out here before they explode if you try to move them! My little mini-tractors fell apart so quickly.:th I am switching to metal ones for anything outside.
  18. CoturnixComplex

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    (x2 thanks for the info on the watering systems!) It is a catch-all word for 3+ color mutations at the same location that can all kind of intermix. They're all golden colored, but beige have no black markings, golden Italian will have more speckles scattered throughout, and Manchurian types...
  19. CoturnixComplex

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    :confused: They're holding out on you, keeping the mystery alive longer. :lau
  20. CoturnixComplex

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    Yep! Have you never heard the egg-whistle before?! It is so weird but cool. Not all of my females do it but enough do that I hear it ~once a day or so. Go out by their cage more just a few moments after sunset!
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