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He's not as wide as I would like, and I think his neck is weak. But I think I'll start with him because the other stags have weird short bodies, with oddly indented breasts. Let me tell you, this hatchery stuff is a right mess, but I like the challenge.

Here's one of my stags. Any and all opinions are appreciated!

That pullet's build reminds me of a stag I have. He'll be nowhere hear as big as your hen, if I had to guess. This hatchery stuff is always undersized, and they're only Reza anyway, so I might get 5 1/2 pounds out of the cocks if I'm lucky, but he's got the most size of the bunch.

Sometimes internet searches including more specific terms like kulang, reza, gamefowl, sonatol, Atkinson, parrot beak, cockfighting, murga or mianwali can help you dig up more obscure information.

I can give you a couple sites I found helpful, but it seems information is scarce, unless I'm just not looking in the right places. http://globalasilclub.blogspot.com/2011/11/ancestors-of-todays-asils-and-all.html?m=1 https://roostergen.com/history-and-structure-of-asil-rooster/...

The hen is supposed to be the key to size in a strain, so it's not surprising that her mother is also small. She's much easier to see than in that first picture you posted, and she does look nice and balanced. Speed is a surprising bonus, with the Asil? How does she compare with the American...

Welcome! I'm definitely partial to the first hen. 😉 I only have hatchery stock that I'm hoping to make decent over the course of the next 5-10 years, nothing of good quality. I don't know if you've heard of Kenny Troiano, but he's got a lot of good free stuff on creating and maintaining your...

I am home all day monitoring my birds, and since they're still young I play 'mother' by walking them around the property to forage periodically. That's a pretty high level of dedication, but one I'm willing to meet since my setup is still incomplete. I still had a bad fight at 6-7 weeks where I...

That sounds plenty fine to me. Even better would be splitting it and rotating them between the two, so vegetation doesn't disappear. But that's pretty luxurious, and ambitious. I've seen far smaller pens, and use of a deep mulch helps in that case.

Yeah? I mean, they're only 3 1/2 months old too. I have to be patient lol.

That would be Cackle I assume. I got the wheatens from them. I used to have birds from a good breeder but I liquidated everything I had, to move to WV. Kicking myself pretty hard now.

The staked out birds may include a couple Aseels. They are popular to grade into the Americans.

I have absolutely never thought I had to watch my back around them. Usually I'm fighting them off because they're too friendly lol.

Aseels won't be like that, from my experience. Gamefowl should absolutely have no human aggression, and if they do there's a problem.

Depending on the strain, hens can even kill each other. Hatchery birds are far less volatile.

I believe white, wheaten, spangled and a couple others are accepted. Maybe black or dark? A list of accepted varieties are accessible without a membership on the APA site.

Suep666, if there is Aseel, it looks like less than half. Most Aseel have pea combs, and those look straight. Maybe a quarter Aseel or so? Half at most.

I get that people who show spend way too much time and effort on looks. That's not what I'm about here. A border collie who steps all over his own feet because they are improperly formed won't win a show OR herd sheep efficiently, whether he listens well and tries his best or not. He's gonna...

I'm clear that Aseels have tons of variation. What I'm looking for is the proper body shape, not the entire package. Shear off the legs, neck and tail and look at what's left. If it's got a big fluffy butt and soft, deep abdomen, I think all of us would agree it's not an Aseel at all. How does...

Right. Aseel to me is more of a landrace or umbrella term for different strains, with a lot of room for personal preference. I'm not arguing against their purpose, just convinced that form and function go hand in hand, so I'm interested in breeding for it. It makes sense to me that a bird whose...