NPIP certified? If not why?

[wilkey44]

I kinda wonder why more people's flocks aren't NPIP certified. Here in Oklahoma it cost $5 to become a certified flock and for $5 i get a health test done on my flock every year if I have a dead bird the department of Ag will come out and pick up the bird or chick and have an necropsy done at no cost to me and people will know that when I sell Pullets or eggs to them its from a healthy stock


Here in Oklahoma they test your whole flock up to 300 birds each year for the first 5 years.

Here is my thought about this after reading the posts the reason I got certified so I could widen my sales opportunities if chick/eggs needed to be certified and getting birds from NPIP cert farms to me is not that big of a deal plus I get free advertisment from the state department of Ag.

The more people that sign up the better the testing will get and cover more tests in the future lets face it back yard chickens are one of the fastest growing business in the US


As a NPIP cert hatchery I can still incubate/brood non-NPIP eggs for people and I can buy non-NPIP bird as long as I have them Seperated from my NPIP stock until the next years testing. so if I want to add Quail or turkeys ect.... I just have to set up a different coop and run for them away from the cert. flock

 

[speckledhen]

I'm not, mainly because it doesn't normally test for anything that is common today, like CRD, etc, only pullorum, typhoid, and sometimes AI. It was a government program established to protect the food supply, not necessarily for backyard flock owners. IMO, it gives a false sense of security to both buyer and seller since a flock may be exposed to and contract something right after testing. It guarantees nothing, really. I keep hearing that folks think NPIP means your flock is disease free and that simply isn't true.

All that said, I don't necessarily have anything against it, however, it's not really something that I feel is overly beneficial for backyard flocks unless you have them test every few months for mycoplasmosis or something much more common than pullorum/typhoid. People who have bought birds from me have had them tested (for mycoplasmosis as well as the usual stuff and they paid extra for it) and they came out clean so I have no plans to become NPIP certified at this time.


You said:

people will know that when I sell Pullets or eggs to them its from a healthy stock

That is not necessarily true, sorry.​

 

[pascopol]

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That is a logical reason not to get certified.

Also a market for eggs and birds says NPIP certifed eggs and birds have no adventage (pricewise) over noncertified poultry.

Markets are always right.

I do not trust Government on any level, so I pass. Our Government , not the people is a cause of US going down the drain and US Government should be held responsible for suffering of millions of our honest and hardworking citizens and families losing their jobs, homes and hope.

Currently millions of fellow Americans are victims of Government criminal irresponsibility, corruption and tyrrany.

My birds are healthy and happy cause I take good care of them and paying close attention to any new aquisitions keeps my flock free of desease so far.

Buing stock from NPIP "certified" party is no way any guarantee the birds are free of desease.

 

[Masonicflock]

I am not nor will I ever be NPIP certified. I've never had an issue and will keep on keeping on. Personally, I think its a bunch of crock. Another gov't scheme for $$$ (like requiring a gun carry permit, My Permit is US Constitution II Amendment Issued 1787 no expiration date) Sorry but have no interest in whether or not a bird or breeder is NPIP. I am more interested in standards and lineage for a pure flock.

 

[Urbanfarmerkc]

I'll add this too... It seems kinda strange to me that you can't purchase outside of NPIP folks as it is possible that a wild bird will poop in your yard and your birds will pick something up from them. I just think it is another way for Big Brother to try to control small farms... again, not having small farms and backyards best interest at heart...???

Dave

 

[crj]

If you get NPIP certification then you are agreeing to only purchase birds from NPIP certified sources...Sorry...Opting out...

That is not the case. I can buy any bird I want. What I wouldn't do is mix it with my tested flock. Once I had the bird tested then no problem.

I was told by the inspectors that many backyard flocks aren't as safe as one may think. Birds my be carriers of a disease and not show symptoms until there offspring grows. Even then they will be carriers. It's the respitory problem birds. He also said to watch out at flea markets because people are getting rid of birds that are a problem and alway auctions. You never know what you may get or what problems you will bring home.​

 

[EweSheep]

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Only if you never tell them, they can not be at your place 24/7.

 

[pips&peeps]

In Washington it costs $75.00 an hour for the State Vet to come out to your house starting from the time they leave his/her office. My vet is in Pullman, which is about two hours from me.

You also have to pay their per diem for the day and around $30.00 for the testing.

I have actually been able to talk them into letting me have a certified vet tech draw my blood and send it to the State lab for testing. I still have to pay the tech and the testing fees. The State Vet comes over anyway four times a year to do AI testing, so he does the site inspection at that time for free.

So it really costs me around $100.00 for the testing for the labor, testing fees and the supplies. If someone were not able to do it the way I do, I would imagine it costs around $200.00+.

I wish I only had to pay $5.00............................

ETA: It is necessary to be certified if you want to legally ship eggs, chicks or started birds into most States.

 

[wilkey44]

they also test for Salmonella and every bird that is tested here in Oklahoma is AI tested

 

[Illia]

pips&peeps :

In Washington it costs $75.00 an hour for the State Vet to come out to your house starting from the time they leave his/her office. My vet is in Pullman, which is about two hours from me.

You also have to pay their per diem for the day and around $30.00 for the testing.

I have actually been able to talk them into letting me have a certified vet tech draw my blood and send it to the State lab for testing. I still have to pay the tech and the testing fees. The State Vet comes over anyway four times a year to do AI testing, so he does the site inspection at that time for free.

So it really costs me around $100.00 for the testing for the labor, testing fees and the supplies. If someone were not able to do it the way I do, I would imagine it costs around $200.00+.

I wish I only had to pay $5.00............................

EXACTLY what I was thinking.

I'd love to be NPIP certified, but it takes a lot of pestering, contacting, and a lot of money.

If it only cost $5, there would be a LOT of NPIP certified people around. . . Also consider, you're in Oklahoma. That's probably the most populous state of poultry breeders out there!

So even if it was actually $5, that would explain why.​