They are amazing... from an economic standpoint they are pretty good considering they sell for a lot of money. Meat and eggs not so much. Although my big Modern/Malay hen laid two eggs in one day yesterday, averaging about 4 a week.From an economic stand point the orientals are a waste of money. Very few eggs and they take too long to get to process weight.That having been said,I care NOT. Anyone who is not fascinated by these birds is really missing out. The history behind these birds,and their contributions to other breeds is a true wonder.