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Walt, those Shamos are beauties. Kinda in your corner on the size, if you're gonna have big birds, go for it. Ya might hafta build your own show pens, lol. I like the looks of Gallo's Brazilians also. As I said before, I had to get rid of all my other orientals, both Shamo and Brazilians, to...

That's a whopper, Walt. Biggest one I've heard of before was 16 lbs. Is he fat? It would be hard to believe he is, but if he isn't, he must be stronger than dirt. How 'bout a picture? Is he a show bird, or, or, you know, lol.......Pop

Most orientals are man friendly and easy to handle. Of course those that don't get handled much will resist, but generally tame right down once in your hands. I have no experience with American Games, but some with Spanish. Every cocker I ever knew would cull a manfighter as quickly as it...

They are extrememly aggressive to other fowl, but seldom to humans. I personally consider Tuzos to be Asils, having black spurs and somewhat smaller than Rampuris, which they are almost identical to. Any of the Reza (small ones, under 3 kg or 6.6lbs) would be ideal. None of them are cheap and I...

I wasn't gonna run my mouth on this subject, but I can't resist. Shamos are big birds, for the most part. They run from around 8lbs to well over twelve sometimes. Tenacity is their middle name once they reach maturity. Until then, Julia Keeling (The Shamo Lady on the Isle of Mann) calls them...

Yes, the hens are always black with black legs. Red hackles and sometimes even a few saddle feathers, are common in the cocks. Stags are usually all black, until maturity. If John has some of Sonny's blood, That could explain why your bird has a clean face. John mentioned that only the "purest...

I had one of Johns hens, til a predator took her. He has some really nice fowl. Pakistani blood that he paid a fortune for, as did I. My hen threw some cocks over 6 lbs when crossed with my Rampuri, which are all under 6. They all tend to flesh up in the face as they mature, even to the point to...

Walt, I hafta agree with the guys on those Asils. Love the legs and head on the cock. Can you share the lineage or source for those fowl? I'm also interrested in his weight. Thanks......Pop

Ditto. Females, even if hatched and raised together, sometimes fight .ike cocks and then, when you asked about egg production, I forgot to mention they are broody quite often.........Pop

Neither breed is fun for the novice. Neither play well with others. They are not great layers, about one medium sized egg every other day. Both are hardy compared to other barnyard types. The O Shamo is usually 10-12 lbs and the Thai is somewhat smaller, depending on the strain. Males cannot be...

Looks like he could grow into a fine specamin..........Pop

Minuteman, those are interresting fowl. I would wager that they are Shamo, or Brazilian crossed with Spanish. They have all the looks of it, but it's real interresting that they have the pearl eyes of the orientals. Usually any outside blood produces red eyes.......Pop

My mistake, sorry Matt. Great looking heads on those fowl. So many good looking birds, can't keep all the people names straight...........P

Daniel, Love the heads on those Brazilians. Gonna be something when they mature.........Pop

Anything can happen and it just did to you. I always recommend penning a broody alone so she can't be bothered, or bother others in your case. Sorry 'bout yer luck........Pop

Good goin, Bennie. Hope they work out well for you..........Pop

Orientals mature slowly. At a year, he's only half way there, even though he probably is fertile. After he matures he should be much better in his bedside maners and treat the ladies with respect and thereby score on a regular basis. This is not unusual for any breed of oriental, but the more...

You guys are scaring me with all this talk of projects and a "game" chicken flying in your face. You better listen to Walt and try to get on the right track. I would soup all that crossed up and mean stuff and try to learn something about breeding gamefowl. Anybody can put a rooster over a hen...

orum, "dude" is at least half of something besides Asil. The tail and heavy feathering are givaways. He looks about half American game, of some description..........Pop

Nate, those Sumatras don't look bad at all, but that Thai ain't even close. Aside from the heavy feathering and wattles, the white ears would suggest something else in his breeding besides Sumatra.........Pop